tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post8833367069369414107..comments2023-05-16T12:26:09.102+01:00Comments on The Historical House: Her Victim Impact StatementMrs McLeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post-70755329103316297912016-06-08T18:25:14.296+01:002016-06-08T18:25:14.296+01:00Sadly, I think it has a lot to do with the Americ...Sadly, I think it has a lot to do with the American college/sports culture. It is seriously messed up. It doesn't surprise me that a college athlete would get off more easily. booklovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post-59912958082829061042016-06-08T18:23:32.628+01:002016-06-08T18:23:32.628+01:00Oh my goodness, YES!! Although the hard part is th...Oh my goodness, YES!! Although the hard part is that the people who give that kind of chastity lecture honestly think they do have the right ideas about dignity. Gah! <br /><br />I cannot stand that kind of thing. Seriously, people, chastity is great, but it's not the be all and end all of human existence. <br /><br />booklovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post-14404079156302592272016-06-08T08:33:50.596+01:002016-06-08T08:33:50.596+01:00I agree with you. I'm not sure why there would...I agree with you. I'm not sure why there would be a different justice for a tenderly-raised college athlete than for, say, a poor boy from a broken home headed by his grandmother. Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post-77053388649185514312016-06-08T08:26:02.881+01:002016-06-08T08:26:02.881+01:00I am sure that is a factor. When I was in high sch...I am sure that is a factor. When I was in high school another factor was cultural expectations around female chastity. Some of my Italian-Canadian friends were being raised as if they were still back in the village and you still ruined your chances of a happy married life by being seen kissing a boy on the street. "What a PUTANA!" stormed one girl upon seeing another girl kissing a boy after a dance. "That's the kind of kiss you give your HUSBAND!" Okay, yes, but jeepers. It's dangerously close to those horrible chastity lectures in which girls who have sex outside marriage are compared to chewed food or dirty glasses of water. If you hate yourself fore being a dirty glass of water, who knows where you'll draw the line after that?<br /><br />While trad Catholic girls are dealing with purity worries, other girls are all frowny-foreheaded about "Being Responsible." This, of course, is mostly about using birth control; feminist writers seem to have had long, soulful conversations with their high school boyfriends about it all. What would be a good corrective to both points of view is DIGNITY. Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post-2035747611300311942016-06-08T08:10:47.227+01:002016-06-08T08:10:47.227+01:00Well, one would hope, but Americans finish high sc...Well, one would hope, but Americans finish high school at what, 17? When I was going to Lonergan (Catholic philosopher-theologian) conferences, there was an elderly Lonerganian who LOVED to show us scans of male teenage brains, and she was particularly enthusiastic about the one done while the subject was driving. Male teenagers get so bored, and they love challenges so much, some risked killing themselves the other day trying to break into the HH. <br /><br />Now that my generation's children are in uni, I think it is insane that American parents send their 17 year old children away to live with 17 - 22 year old strangers in places portrayed on TV and films as drunken party palaces. That said, the Edinburgh uni students I know are all ladies and gentlemen, but on the other hand, (A) they're also all in the Catholic Student Union, and (B) there's no expectations in Scotland that you go to college to drink your face off. <br /><br />It probably comes down to culture. There are several cultures in the world where young men will harass or attempt to rape any woman unaccompanied by a man and this is considered normal, even inevitable. <br /><br />By this is all besides the point in this case. In this case a teenager led a seriously intoxicated adult woman (not a college student) out of a house party to an area behind a dumpster. For all anyone knows, she may have thought he was--tragic traddy irony--escorting her home in safety. Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post-40983359686818179732016-06-08T07:03:54.777+01:002016-06-08T07:03:54.777+01:00He got off too easy. I think she rightly concentra...He got off too easy. I think she rightly concentrated on the dumpster because who would do that? It is much harder to convince people of rape if she went to his place and didn't remember later. The picture is of a woman he planned to use and throw away like trash.Mari Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07171764404064781371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post-31130499158378538382016-06-08T04:22:42.252+01:002016-06-08T04:22:42.252+01:00Men may have violent and sexual urges that need to...Men may have violent and sexual urges that need to be controlled (although I am sure there are some men who would take issue with that statement), but one would hope that by college age they would have learned to control those urges themselves. It's not like men are wild beasts who require chaperones when in the presence of women. At least the men I know are not! Cordinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post-36087945789866843032016-06-08T00:27:02.256+01:002016-06-08T00:27:02.256+01:00It's so sad. :(
And also sad that people off...It's so sad. :( <br /><br />And also sad that people offended when anyone suggests that maybe it's a terrible idea to get drunk at college parties, etc. It's not saying that it's the victim's fault. It's showing girls how to be prudent and not get themselves into dangerous situations. <br /><br />And totally different topic-I wonder if American TV is a big reason that those who aren't having s*x before marriage thinks that everyone who does is willing to sleep around with whomever? booklovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post-39246940158802478522016-06-08T00:12:38.780+01:002016-06-08T00:12:38.780+01:00The sexual revolution and the cultural transformat...The sexual revolution and the cultural transformation that followed it created the ideal conditions for tragedies like this to happen. Our ancestors, i.e. those before 1960, understood and accepted the fundamentals of male biology, part of which is that men have violent and sexual urges that must be controlled. Hence why college socials, and other activities where men and women mingled, were chaperoned. (And why there was no co-ed educational institutions).<br /><br />Jacques<br /><br /><br />That<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524471174570445036.post-46929852946578492682016-06-07T16:07:45.556+01:002016-06-07T16:07:45.556+01:00That young woman's statement is heartbreaking,...That young woman's statement is heartbreaking, not only for its account of her anguish, but also because of its generosity towards the rapist at the end. <br /><br />Alias ClioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com